So you are saying that we should not have any "requirements" on the age, just suggestions?  In that I do agree.  And that would leave it to the parents.  I refused to buy my Son 'A Clockwork Orange" as it was X (NC17 today) when it came out and he is but 13.  I told him in 4 years. BUT, if I had wanted to, I should be allowed to decide if he was ready to see it or not.  Not some faceless bureaucrat.

BUT, if I had wanted to, I should be allowed to decide if he was ready to see it or not. Not some faceless bureaucrat.

Thing is, you can. At least in DVD rental/purchase. For games, it's the same way. If the parents wish the minor child to view/purchase said movie or game, that is their perogative. They may then go out and purchase/rent the title for them.

The store should not usurpt that parents right to restrict by allowing the minor to purchase/rent it anyways.

Personally, I really don't care which of the two ways it goes. If the regulations become "Let everyone who wants to come in", fine. If it becomes "Keep out those that aren't 18 years old", then fine. It's the "Well, for video games, we'll do it *this* way, and for movies we'll do it *that* way" methodology that we've got that drives me just a little batty.

Either way, I - as the parent - will still determine which ones that I will allow my minor children view/use.

It seems to me, banning their sale completely might be a free speech violation, but regulating the sale to minors isn't. Pornography is age regulated and there is no constitutional violation. I really don't see a difference.

Just more stupidity from the bench.

It seems to me, banning their sale completely might be a free speech violation, but regulating the sale to minors isn't. Pornography is age regulated and there is no constitutional violation. I really don't see a difference.

That's my point. There isn't a difference. Same material, different medium. With two different methods of handling it. One side - don't let the minors get it, gotta protect 'em. The other? "Gee, Your Honor, it's a violation of our Constitutional rights to sell this junk to whomever we please if you stop us on this."

That's what I see their argument as. Not a violation of the MINOR's rights, but a perceived violation of the publisher's rights. But if that's the case, why arent' the other mediums in violation?

Can't we expect some kind consistency from our government?

Oh, wait ... never mind. I just remembered who I was talking about.

The main problem with most of these laws is enforcement. It puts video game dealers on the same page with people who sell alcohol and cigarettes. It's a pain, and they don't want to deal with it. You can't get anough people to decide what smut is, anyway, given that there is about as much adult material in some trendy clothing catalogs as there are in most "adult" rated games, and no one polices them.

If you look at movies, no one stands around in wal mart making sure kids don't buy rated R dvds, do they?

If you look at movies, no one stands around in wal mart making sure kids don't buy rated R dvds, do they?

If you pay attention, the register beeps and the clerk has to certify that the person is of legal age to purchase the product. It's one of the (few) complaints I've got about the new self-service registers they're putting in.

If the clerk affirms that the person is of age (and he/she isn't), then it's an issue for the store/clerk to suffer from.

Why do idiots think we should have to reinvent the wheel every time new technology comes out.

If it's illegal for people to see in real life, it should be illegal for kids to see it reproduced in any media.

This is where we get braindead decisions like the recent Supreme Court idiocy about kiddy porn. What really is the difference between a child molestor watching a film and the same perv watching a CGI kid get raped? Some would say the CGI is ok because there weren't any kids hurt in creating the garbage. Well, that is true, but the perv is still getting off on watching kids get raped, and getting ideas about what to do with his next victim.

When I complained to one of my kids' teachers about blatant nudity in a film she showed in class, all I got was a condescending suggestion that "maybe I would be happier with my kids in private school" and the old "well, the film was approved by the School Board". I asked the teacher (and a female member of the school board) if she walks around the classroom with her shirt off. When she said "NO!" I said, well, then why was it ok by you that Julliete do it?

Immature oafs will always find excuses to try to force their little fantasies on the rest of us. It is up to the rest of us to stand up for ourselves and shut them up!